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Hi people, here are some vehicle pics I took from my older files, and which I could extract for latest simutrans pak128, if desired, that is.

(Above posted at August 20, 2006, 11:16:52 PM)
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(August 20, 2006, 11:18:32 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

Sorry for last image, but having to copypaste all those vehicles like in the first one seemed like a pain to me , please click in view button to fuilly appreciate the level of detail of these vehicles

(Above posted at August 20, 2006, 11:18:32 PM)
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(August 20, 2006, 11:51:46 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

two more pics with vehicles, these are RV, and some freighter wagons

80 x 80 was a nice scale right?
Let's see how do they result

I won't allign the million images that comprise these sets, I hope you understand that.

That's the problem, the only way i can get them is in separated images, which are bmp, and then I've got to make them png....
Well, perhaps it's not that hard. Hmm, I'll try tyo do it. Only not today.

They're now alonne in the world, nobody playing with them since:
A:They're misaligned with standard pak128
B:They carry cargoes that nobody knows
C: They're too cheap

Which makes me think....
Perhaps I could repack this set and use napik's table to price NS set.

Who's dutch in this forums?

thx, because the NS set is the one I like the most and the one that's going to be renewed, so if any dutch rail enthusiast wants to help...

i'm prepaired to help butt im not good at making sprites they wont gett good

So who's going to repak all off the US stuff? I suppose I could do it, but I might not be able to get on my home computer for about a week. (my brother just had to break his own 1.5[split level] story window and tried to jump out, then lie about it even when the neigbors saw it. )

The vehicles in the US set were good, just needed to be aligned. I only can pixel draw, and pixel drawing in  doesn't really look that good, so I think I'll stick to making stuff for 

Your tech data seems pretty good. I used some of it to make some vehicles of mine.

I remeber, the steamers took a while to get up to speed.

If you mean for it will be a while. I won't be able to get on my home computer for a week like I said. It seems as if the momentuem for  's US set has faded away. I suppose I could help with some of the stuff, somehow.

So are all of the vehicles that were in your US set in there? If they are just send me a list of their names (I cant get on to simutrans to find out the names), so I can find technical data on them. AFAIK the stats were fairly accurate.

this is a bit off topic but... i had to say it

some of these drawings are amazing
if you finished a drawing corse you could make money from it

There is some technical data on a few big steam engines: http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php/topic,2618.0/all.html

there is a safe assumption for engines. Most 8 wheel locomotives are between 55 and 60 feet. Most 12 wheel locomotives are between 65 and 80 feet. (newer ones are arund 90 feet). As for diesels, doing ever major road diesel would be a little to much. I think just making the more well known ones would be best. I'm working on a list of American frieght cars, not all of the frieght cars are included.

I don't know if anyone has a program that can open dwg (AutoCAD) files. I made the list using AutoCAD. I managed to get bulk goods, piece goods, and liquid goods done. I'm working on Autos.

The list has all of the stats exept for speed and vehicle weight. I plan to add these because there are some that are extremely heavy, and others that are relatively light. I'll set some realistic speed limits to them.

Good. the list I have is on AutoCAD2005.

Blue and white livery you mean?

I'll need to make planes again for pakHD, perhaps I could render some batches of known liveries, and release them as addons.

Does somebody know about planes? I'll love to have  a timeline.

Ok, but I don't have the files.
This is the chance to make a comprehensive list of planes, I've got one, but I don't know a thing about those flying whiteys.
I plan on modellig them around next week (I've got a tight schedule to release pakHD the 20th of september)

Regards

I bet Isaac tought no more file types where going to be needed soon. Lol

Then what shall we do with engines? I've got my pak96HD set, but it's a very basic set.

(Above posted at August 24, 2006, 03:34:17 PM)
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(August 24, 2006, 03:37:54 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

And how come you have Autocad and don't have winzip!?!?

Send it via mail then, you've got it in my profile.

Thx

That list is quite cool. If I can, I'll try to release pak96 version today, then we can work out the pak128 version with player colours and stuff .

Do we have to keep standard pak128 alignment? Because if we're going for a full set in here, there's no need at all.

Regards

EDIT: BTW, do you know of a good website with US stuff? Because besides some train model photos, I don't have much to work on.

(I add filetypes upon request -- or mention, as is this case... .dwg add'd.)

I don't have it anymore Breeze646, that's why I asked for a timeline.

Itt wil be finished in 4 days because i need to do a lot of research
 

nice list you've got there.

Have you got info for sizes? (both lenght and wingspan)
Also, weight would be nice. I guess power is just set so the plane can attain full speed shortly, but if you've got this value, it'll be good.

I'm about halfway finished with the list for amerincan road diesels. I used all of the common ones. There are alot, but most of them look alike.

Most of them look identical though, there is no external difference between an SD80 and an SD90, the only difference is power. I guess I'll cut the modified verisons (SD40-2, ES44AC, B23-7, etc/ [unless they are more powerful]). But if your making them I guess I should let you decide.

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(August 25, 2006, 09:17:18) UPDATE:[/size]

There are only 4 F units, the FT, F2, F3, F7, and F9. the 2,3, and 7 are almost identical.

Well, thinking that way it kills about 7 EMD engines (8 if you count the SD75 as a 500 hp upgrade of the SD70), and about half of GE's engines (GE just modified their U-boats into the dash 7 series & dash 8 series with the exeption of the Dash 8-40B & Dash 8-40C [the higest powered U-boat has the U36B and U 36C] ). Maybe versions locomotives that only one railroad uses should be excluded (i.e. Norfolk Southern is the only RR with Dash 9-40C, Dash 9-40CW, & ES40DC's)

GE just has to many dashes in thier locomotive names.
i.e. dash eight dash forty c (Dash 8-40C) As a result, most rr's use their own naming systemfor them.

the only external differences between a SD40, SD 38 (I probably won't include), and SD 35 are the roof fans (the same thing happens on the geeps).

And for looking different the GP30 will be in.

Well I'd change the names between versions so players, if they want to can have different liverlies. And in picking RR's to use, I guess using ones that were around for the steam era and lasted into the 90's would be best, because there are only a few.  The Canadian ones are there still.
They are (how they went away in parentheses):
Santa Fe (merger into BNSF)
Southern Pacific (merger into Union Pacific)
Union Pacific
Chicago & Northwestern (merger into Union Pacific)
Illinois Central [made the Hiawatha] (bought out by Canadian Pacific)
Out of these only 1 exists today.

Yay CN!!! For me I like the idea.

Well, I got the frieght diesel list down to about 15 engines and the passenger diesel down to about 8. I didn't put in any F or FA unit in the list though, but I will add them.

I might just make one big list and rename it US list. I may also add some steamers and constrained sets.

8-29: finished all diesels; added some electric engines
8-30: finish electric engines; may start on superpower engines

Timeline is mean that the date of the plane delivery to the first operator.
Airbus
A310 210seats timeline:1985
A320 150seats timeline:1989
A330-300 331 seats timeline: 1993
A330-200 250 seats timeline: 1998
A380-800 555 seats timeline: 2007
Boeing
707 189 seats timeline: 1958
737-300 139 seats timeline: 1984
737-500 108 seats timeline: 1990
737-800 189 seats timeline: 2001
757 186 seats timeline: 1982
767-200 198 seats timeline: 1982
767-300 269 seats timeline: 1985
777-200 336 seats timeline: 1996
777-300 385 seats timeline: 1998

Do you want me to find some more plane were delivered earlier?

Hi, I, on teh contrary, have no idea at all about planes . This was my idea for HD sets

Zeps
. Graf class
. Union class (large zep)
. Blimp (modern little blimp)

turbofans
long range: more like standard class
.comet
1955 .367
1962 .707
1982 .767-200
1982 .767-300
1995 . 777-200
1998 .777-300
mid range special class
1967 .737
1983 .757
(2000).(modern)
small
(1968)?
(1985)?
(2000)?
bigones
1975.747
1976.Concorde
2006.A380

Turboprops
Mainclass
1908.?
1920.247
1933.DC3
1942.DC6
1948.Stratocruiser
1960.?
1982.?
small class
1910.?
1936.?
1960.?
1980.?


both
Cargo
1960.Guppy
1972. Some military cargo plane made civil
1982. A cargo Airbus
1994. That Illushin beast aka Il-76

Copters
pass
1960.?
1972.?
1984.?
2000.?
cargo
1975.?
1990.?
2002.?


But I don't mind somebody just revamping my list. so fa I've just got the data on standard class turbofans from the 707 to the 777, the concorde, a380, 737 and 757, also the early DC3 and DC6

I'll TRY to use a scale of 1 length unit = 1,5. If it turns out too big and misaligned, I'll change it.

This I'll do today. Tomorrow I'll do more from that list. but I really really need the stats:

Main craft Use/Intro/Sizes (WingSpan/Length/Height/Hull Width)/weight/nºpowerplants*pw output/speed/capacity

btw, height includes tail?

I'll be making a windowless version of each plane for mail cargo.
I prefer the economic cruise speed rather than the max speed record achieved under special circumstances.

I include just the Boeing types because this was a bit more american flavoured.

If you like the level of detail present on actual pak128 airplanes as made by me, I could make about 10 planes a day. (And now is the turn of pakHDplanes, so...) So a list of 10 planes for tomorrow and the next wouldn't make an unrealistic schedule.

I forgot: I've got the data on some airbuses around (thx iberia):
A310 320 330-300 330-200 380-800.

Hmm, had to go and get a coffee: If it's allright this is my proposed schedule:

Today: I'll make the DC3 and 6, the boeings 707 767 (2) 777(2) A380 737 and 757. Also will test scale and make the light setup and colours for pak128 (show a test tonight, in around 12h)
Tomorrow: I'll model everything you want from Airbus
Friday: I'll model everything from Boeing
Saturday: MD
Sunday: Zeppelins , early craft, small craft
Monday: Protoypes and futuristic craft, also special liveried renders.

And no more planes till 2010 then
I have the possibility of rendering them in a light blue that somebody can manually convert to player blue, if not, just tell me preferred liveries (So far Cathay for the 777 and A320 and Dragonair for the A320).

Regards

right, A330, I'vegot it printed in one message of yours, just mistyped.

So, here's a DC3, first some silly renders, then the real simutrans thing at 96*2 -- pak192.


What's the desired size for pak128? I'm using a scale of 1,5 m * 0.8 (reduction) = 1 size unit.
Don't know if I'll have to realign for pak128.

Here's a test pak.

Hope you like it all

(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 10:04:04 AM)
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(August 30, 2006, 10:08:33 AM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

This is, of course, the HD version.

(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 10:08:33 AM)
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(August 30, 2006, 10:16:04 AM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

Oh, jeez, I screwed up some scales (lenght and height!)

Back to hangar, don't forget the chainsaw.

(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 10:16:04 AM)
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(August 30, 2006, 10:27:16 AM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

sigh, nice!, Now it's changed.

It was almost right, a bit long (looks more like a DC6 in body size). But I like to make these things right from the beggining, what would I do with a pak300 the A380 then!.
Now I'll have to correct the DC6. I'll post the 707 in a while.

CommentS?

Ok, but at pak64 size or bigger for a better scaling?
I'll finish it then compose a batch with everything.

Hehe, If you don't mind, I'll toy around with pak size, because this is a DC-3 using pak64.

I've finished the pak96*2 batch. I'll do a pak128 batch to work for pak64 then. I'm making the dat, then test, then make the pak64 one.

Regards

hmm, I guess so. What for? Filesize?
I prefer to keep them at tilesize 192 since it's easier for me to render and place them in a batch.

Or if you're referring to the fact of including pak128 vehicles in pak64, well, since latest release, you can without messing up the whole game.

I'll give you a pak when it's ready so you tell me how you want them. (I guess not using antialiasing).

No, I pak it, it's mine! MINE!

Hehe, I talked about paking because I needed to align them. If you want I'll give you even the blend file.
There are some pixel problems tehre. The solution is to make it black and white then fill the back with transparent blue.
(If I render with black back, half the vehicle dissapears when I fill it transparent blue, that's why I use key + background rendering which blurrs edges a bit, sure not a problem in Hd worlds)

There are some problems here. It seems to stick to E-W roads but not on NS ones, hmmm, here you got some shots.
1-2 are grounded, 3 is flying.

There's the pak, to be used with pak64 (or whatever), just be advised that your depot will be a mess if there are other standard airplane paks



(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 12:26:30 PM)
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(August 30, 2006, 12:29:16 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

BTW; here are dat and png.

(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 12:29:16 PM)
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(August 30, 2006, 12:38:44 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

Oh, just in case you wondered:

DC3
DC6
707
767-200
767-300
777-200
777-300
737 (I guess the 200)
757
Stealth SuperDuper Liner

I think the power of the plane is too low.

When the 777-300 have full payload it can only flying in 318km/h. The real one in full payload can be fly about 890Km/h. You have setted the power is about 8000kw. But the Japanese B747-400 have setted 30464KW. So I think you setted the power about over 30000KW. So i think all the power should X3.75time
for example 777-300 :
8000X3.75=30000.

Ok, as said by iberia903, the power is way off, but here are the stats (or you prefer dat file?)
(Adjusted gear tough, and incresead power, but It may not be enough).
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retire_year=1942
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
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smoke=-1
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-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=DC-6
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=501
power=2200
gear=220
weight=34
length=8
cost=24400000
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intro_year=1942
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Constraint[Prev][0]=none
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copyright=raven Liner ()
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EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.1.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=707
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=1000
power=5000
gear=220
weight=56
length=12
cost=95900000
runningcost=1626
intro_year=1962
retire_year=1982
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Passagiere
payload=185
copyright=raven Liner ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.0
EmptyImage[SE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.1
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EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.2.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=767-200
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=914
power=7500
gear=220
weight=77
length=13
cost=136700000
runningcost=2407
intro_year=1982
retire_year=1995
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Passagiere
payload=198
copyright=raven Liner ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.0
EmptyImage[SE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.1
EmptyImage[E]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.2
EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.3.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=767-300
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=900
power=7500
gear=220
weight=81
length=15
cost=137200000
runningcost=2407
intro_year=1982
retire_year=1995
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Passagiere
payload=269
copyright=raven Liner ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.0
EmptyImage[SE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.1
EmptyImage[E]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.2
EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.4.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=777-200
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=905
power=12000
gear=220
weight=142
length=17
cost=240300000
runningcost=3888
intro_year=1995
retire_year=2050
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Passagiere
payload=336
copyright=raven Liner ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_0.5.0
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EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.5.5
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EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.5.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=777-300
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=893
power=12000
gear=220
weight=160
length=20
cost=247000000
runningcost=3888
intro_year=1995
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Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
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freight=Passagiere
payload=385
copyright=raven Liner ()
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-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=737
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=912
power=4500
gear=220
weight=32
length=8
cost=68500000
runningcost=1448
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Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
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copyright=raven Liner (Short Range)
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-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=757
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=914
power=6000
gear=220
weight=58
length=13
cost=104500000
runningcost=1901
intro_year=1983
retire_year=2050
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
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copyright=raven Liner (Short Range)
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EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.8.4
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EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.8.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_0.8.7
-----------------------------------------
"

"obj=vehicle
name=DC-3_(post)
waytype=air
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power=1790
gear=220
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length=5
cost=13400000
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Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
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copyright=raven Post ()
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EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.0.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.0.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.0.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.0.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.0.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=DC-6_(post)
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=501
power=2200
gear=220
weight=34
length=8
cost=24400000
runningcost=739
intro_year=1942
retire_year=1962
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Post
payload=112
copyright=raven Post ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.0
EmptyImage[SE]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.1
EmptyImage[E]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.2
EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.1.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=707_(post)
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=1000
power=5000
gear=220
weight=56
length=12
cost=95900000
runningcost=1626
intro_year=1962
retire_year=1982
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
freight=Post
payload=370
copyright=raven Post ()
EmptyImage=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.0
EmptyImage[SE]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.1
EmptyImage[E]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.2
EmptyImage[NE]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.3
EmptyImage[N]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.4
EmptyImage[NW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.5
EmptyImage[W]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.6
EmptyImage[SW]=../Vehicleset/planes_1.2.7
-----------------------------------------
"
"obj=vehicle
name=767-300_(post)
waytype=air
engine_type=diesel
speed=900
power=7500
gear=220
weight=81
length=15
cost=137200000
runningcost=2407
intro_year=1982
retire_year=1995
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none
smoke=-1
sound=planelow.wav
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So, you like them?

(Above posted at August 30, 2006, 09:21:52 PM)
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(August 30, 2006, 09:31:58 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

Long dat eh?

Here's the dat in a proper format and the blend file, use it at your own risk, don't sell or redistribute without saying (And sharing), and blablabla.

Regards. (BTw, in the dat there are also some cargo and mail planes, they are the same as passenger but without windows and with the tail black, also two cargo versions)

Are the useable in pak128? After all, they're not player colour or anything.

Erm those running costs would make them cheaper to run than most trains...
For comparison - pak128 Green Class (82passengers) costs 1.44.
Though given that the pak128 747 costs 22.04 (early), 15.76 (later) halving the running costs from the dats (roughly) might be in order.

At the moment they seem to be at least three or four times more than equivalents pak128. Of course you might not want to go with the pak128 balance (you suggested elsewhere you liked higher prices, lower maintainance...)

Gliders? Are we crazy?
Of course they can, heheh, but as an addon.

I like new planes (do nto worry about alignement), however I have one comment to the render: shading is too sharp. The dark sizes are almost black. This will not fit into the pak128 scheme. Dark sides should be about 20-40% darker than bright sides.

For the size: please use 747 as an etalon. I know that we can have larger planes (like pak254), but I do not know if it would make sense and mainly look well with all airport buildings and other things we have.

Prices: I will recalculate them for all vehicles which will go into pak128, so there is no need to worry!

Player colors, um um...  ok.

Thank you,
Tomas

Raven, what do you do in the daytime/for a living/in real life?  How can you possibly find the time for all of this?

Yesterday I made a comercial city set and 10 station halls, today,  4 2 tile station domes and different platforms.
You can build pretty cool stations with this stuff, I'll make a shot.


Oh, my! Bridge alignment was wrong in last version right? Hmm, my bridges were aligned to it, now they're wrong

I had to rerender some bits, so...

(Above posted at September 04, 2006, 06:42:47 PM)
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(September 04, 2006, 06:45:03 PM) Subject: Re: Various possible addons

An another one.

Now to shower and go and bring girl back home. (And walk dog too)

Cya

I though it was multi-tasking.

  NTB, I can play a playstation with my feet (not as well as I can with my hands), eat with one hand and use a comuper with the other (I can type with my feet but it's slow).

"Shark teeth" in Dutch. 

But roads are not very portable to 64, are they?

Let's see.... Roads... Pity I don't play with roads, else I might have an opinion on this one... And if only you asked about the US - well, since you didn't, I gues----- what? Oh, roads? U.S.?

You'll have to stop me on this subject now...... 

Dirt roads are still used in some rural areas... Gravel roads in other rural areas -- in Texas, there's a lot of limestone used for this purpose - very bright white rock... very very dusty.

In a lot of rural areas, you'll find asphalt with no road markings used by poorer counties - usually lots of tar-lines - almost looks like the mip_cobblestone, only less even... (this is why I wish we had multiple-random tiles for roads like we do for grass! heh)

Highways in rural areas tend to be two lanes. The middle has either double-yellow line (no passing), one solid yellow stripe and one dashed yellow stripe, or just the dashed yellow strip, centered (dashes indicate passing allowed for that side of the road).

On a "major" two-lane highway, the edges will ahve solid white stripes, and usually a shoulder or emergency lane, where the pavement is usually bad (but usually paved).

"Rural" divided highways (as opposed to interstates) would have a yellow solid stripe at the median, white dashes between the lanes, and solid white on the right. Might not have a shoulder.

Interstates would be above with a shoulder.

............I have to go rehearse, so more later from me on this. Thsi is just the first part of my comments................ :-D

Heh, forget pakHandDrawn... pakMonochromeRenderedAwesomeness 4tw! =P

If Simutrans ever gets a 3D engine I have a feeling your Blender skills will come in handy Those are awesome!

Oh ya one thing to add to the US Highways, here in North America, on a divided highway or really any road. The line on your left (where regular lanes end basicly) should be yellow and the line on the farthest right indicates the end of normal lanes on the right side. (I have to know this as I'm taking my driving lessions next year)

Now speaking in Simutrans words, you would have to make two diffent types of roads to get that yellow line in the middle on a highway. One for one direction and one for the other. That would make it more like normal highways here.

Also on the topic of highways, currently most highways in citys are being changed to Cement as they require less maintance which in turn, causes less traffic because no lane reductions.

In montreal they shut down there WHOLE highway system to convert it all to cement. Atlest along the 40 there in Montreal they got access roads which are a good detour but for the 20 and other highways there are no access roads so they have to go through a major detour.

So if you do follow this, make both a cement verson and pavement and try to have the same speed limit on both...

Thanks!

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(September 08, 2006, 01:38:49 AM) UPDATE:[/size]

Opps just read you message here:

And yes please do City Streets to go with the Asphalt regional roads so that they don't look diffent from what they should look like.

How about we make a pak North America? Anyone think it's a good idea? We can include the CN Tower that I found somewhere on this forum.

I've got tons of paperbuses so if we can convert them from Paperbus Model to Simutrans then we got the bus part solved. I know someone who has Toronto Subway papermodels and lots of stuff we can use.

Anyway for the highways let this be a primary example of a Canadian Cement Highway.

Actually the first paved road in America was cement, in the late 1890's or early 1900's in Ohio; it is still there today


So all of HD is a North America set?
OAN, Canadian C-liners have a B-C wheel arangement and are 5' longer than the B-B versions.

The second engine from the top in the list I made. All of the names and stats are right, so if you needed pictures you could enter the name into a search engine.

May as well add the updated list, added a Berkshire and made some text more simpler.

I categorized the steam engines and diesel locomotives in my list into frieght and passenger ones, because the frieght one were to slow. I just havent gotten very many steam engines before 1890, and I tended to put in the famous or superpowered ones though. I made my list touching the best known engines from the all of the locomotive companies in America exept for the newest one (they just came out with there first engine a few months ago).

About RDCs: how would it be made so that an RDC 2 or RDC 3 (half post/passenger) could be built. RDC 4 was an all mail version, RDC 1 a passenger version.

I like your Idea of tail cars. Maybe if we stuck both lists together, we could have a pretty good amout of steam and electric engines. I could easily write dat files, takes me about 1-2 minutes for a vehicle.

Do you think you could rewrite the list I made, into a file that sandard  will read (like a png, or something). Would allow me to make dat files in school and at home using my flash drive.

Lol, it looks like you're selling that vehicle yourself. I've read that it hardly works at full speed because the huge amount of level crossings.

HD is handdrawn set, or black and white.

I'll get to it soon packer, and I can introduce the info on my xls file (it produces dats easily and let's me correct data afterwards without much effort). I'm still trying to get a release of pakHD remember?

Regards

sure

ATM I'm trying to make a comprehensive set of Chicago-styled skyscrapers.
If you like those buildings: http://www.skyscraperpage.com is a cool place.

Regards

Oh they work alright. Any of you remember those jet trains? (The trains that were powered by a jet engine) Well they operated in excess of 250 kph and they had less level crossings back then (they got rid of a few level crossings and replaced with bridges).

The new Locomotives though are the only ones that have problems with speed. (The p42s) This is because CN who owns the tracks, thinks if they go too fast they will damage them. So they have a restricted speed limit.

I love it!

Tomas

Ok, just please, do not make the old ones too big. Keep in mind Gaz trucks if you rember the graphics. 

Tomas

Got 16 more to be converted, shall I? Didn't see any comments  

Oh yes,  p l e a s e  !!!!!  

There are no comments yet, but several downloads were done though your add-ons are not obvious to detect in this thread.

Keep on your really excellent job (not only for pak 128 which is my favourite size ...).

Greetings
Günter

Ah.... *happy sigh* More pretty trains to play with.

You're slowly working on converting me to a rail-and-truck player, you know that? Because I have to play with these things.........

oh

getting a batch done, if you're around, stay for a while please.

Now they're way too little, IMO

I think, the last size is perfect!  

As I looked the pak128 depots, I realized two old creations of mine, two TEE heads in crimsom+cream livery. They didn't get their trainset included in the main 128, only their puny heads, which were even too little regarding scale.

I decided they'd earned a new chance, so I composed the DSB MA461, a 4 piece express DMU.

Feel free like using it and posting feedback (which is always appreciated), since the pak posted is compatible with standard pak128.




^Guess which one is the Lyntog

They look nice -- I'll have to remember the next time I get time to play Simutrans to use them...

thanks for your kind comments.

I decided to rerender some of the unused factories.

The need some tweaking, since they look a bit gross to me atm. I think it's the fact that they were designed for a much more little scale.

Also, would like to change scale too, seems a bit off. Let's see if I can compose a fake screenshot.

@napik, if you feel these should be included, I'd like to do the grunt work (tiling animating...)


EDIT: look at the scale! That made me cry :-(
Anyway, is there a hope I made a new blast furnace to supply unrefined steel to the actual Steel Mill? Because a blast furnace sure is large.

Thanks haspwolf

New tracks, we need snowy versions anyway....

BTW, this steamer is so cool! (Monatetsu's)

steam for Brasil is working yet,As the sugar mill Brasil has been started up again, three fireless engines have again found service. The last time the mill worked was in 2002. Nobody could expect that after 4 year the fireless engines would be used again. Their condition is better than before. It seems the works used the time to give them a thorough main exam. One engine was still being worked on. There are no other alterations to mention besides the fact that the last two tornados have left their marks on the buildings. As these engines are rarely mentioned in reports, here is the complete data:

Loco number Type Manufacturer Builder's number Remarks
1251 B fl Baldwin 60099/1927 operational
1368 B fl Baldwin 53876/1920 operational
1369 B fl Baldwin 53832/1020 undergoing heavy overhaul
1370 C fl Henschel 20120/1923 stored                                  
1371 C fl Henschel 20380/1924 operational       foto in 2005 of 1371 c fl henschel

 i  have the answer by Transportation Researcher of E.U. and for me has suprise to see that they are plane other energy sources fro this trains so that the answer that i get for my friend" A Multi-Section Modern Fireless Steam Locomotive

A modernised fireless steam locomotive could be a low cost and proven rail traction technology that could still provide a variety of services in the modern era. It is a concept that can operate quite cheaply in under-developed tropical countries. Ongoing research into this concept has so far revealed that when production of fireless steam locomotives ended, much potential was still left unexplored and undeveloped. During a future time when oil supplies may decline and oil prices escalate, fireless steam railway traction could become a viable option in many types of railway services. Such locomotives could be recharged from a wide variety of competitively priced renewable thermal energy sources, including biomass, solar energy and geothermal energy.

Earlier generations of fireless locomotives delivered low power levels and offered a limited operating range, characteristics that relegated them to duties in railway shunting yards or on short industrial branch lines. During the heyday of fireless steam power, the state of the art in metallurgy and metal manufacturing limited the size of available accumulators (pressure vessels). Modern metal manufacturing technology can now produce much larger accumulators (out of stainless steel) which can operate at much higher pressures and temperatures. Available thermal energy storage technology systems typically involve low long-term costs, providing many times the life expectancy of electrical energy storage systems such as batteries. Saturated water and various types of molten metals have been shown to be low-cost thermal storage media. Various multi-section fireless locomotive concepts using such thermal storage are described below.

1) A Multi-Accumulator Fireless Steam Locomotive:

Saturated water has a long proven record as a reliable, low-cost thermal energy storage medium. It the basis of energy storage in classical fireless steam locomotive operation. In a previous research paper on heat pumping a fireless steam locomotive, it was revealed that saturated water could be used as a high-temperature "refrigerant". This research was based on calculations pertaining to the enthalphy and entropy of saturated water at varying pressure and temperature levels. A heat-pumped two-accumulator fireless steam locomotive could operate at a higher level of thermal efficiency while delivering a constant level of power output over most of its duty cycle. Its operating range, efficiency and power output levels can be increased by introducing a third accumulator, in an accompanying tender unit.

The tender section of such a locomotive would comprise a high-pressure accumulator (2000 to 2500 cu.ft) that would release no steam or high-pressure saturated water while in operation. It would be filled to 85% of its volume with 60,000-lbs of saturated water at 2000-psia, storing 672.1-Btu/lb thermal energy (at 635.8-deg F) that would be heat pumped into the main accumulator. This would allow the main accumulator on the locomotive section to operate at constant temperature (544-deg F) and pressure (1,000-psia) levels over an extended duration. To enable heat pumping, an (low-pressure) evaporator would be immersed in the hot saturated water in the tender, while a (high-pressure) condensor would be housed near the bottom of the operating accumulator. The main accumulator would hold 48,000-lbs of saturated water with an enthalpy of 542.6-Btu/lb in the liquid state. It would need to continually receive 650.4-Btu/lb in heat energy from the high-pressure accumulator while the locomotive is in operation, in order to maintain constant temperature and pressure levels. Variable rate heat pumping could transfer over 12,000,000-Btu's of energy into the main accumulator. By adding 774-Btu/lb of energy to steam prior to expansion, over 15,000-lb of steam from the main accumulator may be expanded in the steam engine for propulsion.

The steam engine could operate at 280-psia, a pressure level that could be maintained by using compound valve throttling in the steam line and inside the main accumulator. This throttling of steam would return heat to the main accumulator. The low pressure working steam could be re-superheated inside the main accumulator, with thermal energy from both the main and the high-pressure accumulator, prior to expansion at 600-deg F and 1316-Btu/lb in the steam engine. As temperature and pressure in the high-pressure accumulator drops, heat pumping of thermal energy at a high level of COP could maintain optimal temperature levels in the main operating accumulator. Heat pumping could enable superheated steam at 600-deg F to be expanded in the steam engine for an extended operating duration.

During recharging, the accumulators may be reheated in series or independently of each other. In series reheating, the tender accumulator would be heated by using an internal heat exchanger through which superheated steam would flow. During the early recharging stage, the cooled steam leaving the tender could initially be used to replenish the main accumulator's partially depleted volume. During the latter stage of recharging, this steam would be re-superheated from an external source prior to entering the main accumulator, raising the saturated water supply to its operating temperature and pressure levels. When indepedently reheated, water from the tender accumulator would be circulated through an external heater. Alternately, the tender accumulator could also be reheated through an internal heat exchanger, allowing heat from an external heat exchanger to be transferred into the tender.

While in operation, the total stored energy level of over 8,000-Hp-hr (12,000,000-Btu from the tender accumulator; 15,500-lb steam from the main accumulator at 1316-Btu/lb at 600-deg F) could be available to be converted into traction, at efficiency levels of 10% to 15%. The multi-section fireless steam locomotive could haul short commuter trains for distances of 25 to 40-miles, using 800-Hp for over 1-hr at moderate speeds (25 to 40-mi/hr) on tracks in under-developed nations, operating along lower-density branch lines or even in commuter service operations. The locomotive's overall operating range and power level would depend on the volume storage capacity in both accumulators. This restriction favours railway systems allowing generous exterior railcar right-of-way clearance dimensions, in turn favouring much larger water-based fireless steam locomotives that can operate at higher power levels of extended distances.

2) Heat-of-Fusion Accumulator Tender

A previous research paper described the possible use of corrosion-resistant ceramic materials such as silicon-carbide and silicon carbide, in a heat-of-fusion thermal storage system. Materials such as Aluminium (aluminum in the USA), Lithium Carbonate or Aluminium-Copper mixtures can be used as heat-of-fusion thermal energy storage materials. Despite these ceramics being used in applications requiring tensile strength, such as for turbine blades in jet engines and cylinder liners in internal combustion engines, in steam locomotive operation the ceramic material will need to be used in applications where the are subjected to minimal tensile stresses. Ceramic materials can withstand compressive stresses of over 10,000-psi, allowing pressurized steam to surround 36-inch diameter by 2-inch thick silicon-carbide (SC-1000) storage cylinders. Heat-of-fusion material would be contained in ceramic cylinders (with tapered and rounded ends) which would be housed horizontally inside stainless steel cylinders. Steam at 300-psia would circulated inside these stainless steel cylinders, being superheated by heat from within the ceramic cylinders prior to being expanded in the steam engine. Compressive (hoop) stress below 3,000-psi would occur on these ceramic cylinders, from steam at 300-psia.

Thermal energy from a metal compound such as lithium carbonate which melts at 723-deg C (1334-deg F), would release a latent heat-of-fusion of 260-Btu/lb at constant temperature. Pure aluminum melts at 645-deg C (1193-deg F) with 170-Btu/lb, while an aluminum-copper mixture would melt below 400-deg C (752-deg F). Heat from thermal storage tender would be transferred into the main accumulator through a heat exchanger recirculating steam, to maintain optimal temperature and pressure levels. Heat from the thermal storage tender would also be used to superheat steam prior to expansion in the steam engine. With over 170-Btu/lb being available from 150,000-lb of storage material, some 25,500,000-Btu's could be used to maintain heat levels in the main accumulator as well as to superheat the steam prior to expansion at 300-psia at 600 to 800-deg F. If saturated water is maintained in the main accumulator at 1,000-psia and 544-deg F (542-Btu/lb), heat from the tender could allow for up to 32,000-lb water to be superheated to 700-deg F (1368.9-Btu/lb).

The quality of steam entering the steam engine could raise efficiency levels to well excess of 20% (single expansion ceramic uniflow engine with minimum inlet valve cut-off ratios as low as 10%; reciprocating or rotary design). The infrared spectrum of solar thermal energy used to reheat the metal inside the ceramic cylinders, using special collector lenses and special fibre-optic cables. Superheated steam may also be used for reheating of both the main accumulator as well as the thermal storage tanks (flowing low pressure steam at 900-deg C or 1650-deg F). It could process some 30,000-lb of steam from a main accumulator holding some 60,000-lb saturated water at 80% volume. With stored energy levels of over 16,000-Hp-hr and energy efficiencies between 15% and 20%, this type of fireless steam locomotive could pull short trains for up to 4-hours at 800-Hp, travelling at low speeds (25 to 40-mi/hr) along rural lines, branch lines, industrial lines, short line operations, commuter passenger services or even inter city services in developing nations.

Future Research:

Research in the world of chemistry has developed a variety of new compounds over the past several years. Such developments have included super-ceramic materials and high-temperature superconductivity materials. One possible future compound may be a low-cost material that melts at 400-deg C or 750-deg F and with a heat of fusion near 400-Btu/lb. A tender storing 100,000-lb of such material could deliver 40,000,000-Btu of high grade heat to steam leaving the main accumulator, allowing 45,000-lb of steam to be processed from a total of 75,000-lb of saturated water stored at 1,000-psia and 544-deg F. Superheated steam at 280-psia and 700-deg F (1370-Btu/lb) could be expanded at near 20%-efficiency, allowing a fireless locomotive to deliver 1,000-Hp while pulling a short train at speeds of over 50-mi/hr for up to 4-hours or more duration.

Conclusion:

Fireless steam locomotives have the potential to be developed to provide useful services in several types of non-electrified railway operation in a future oil-constrained environment. They can be developed to operate commuter as well as intercity services in smaller countries.

you welcame if need something more if i can help more with research is no problem for me is my job i am working in lithuania for transport section for COMMISSION OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES

You can simulate anything - you just have to make some compromises sometimes... No forced maintenence or refueling, so sure, you just have the graphics -- but that's true of mostly anything simulated... Only if more infrastructure is needed - like catenary or third rail etc

are you sure that is c40a because i try to check in my documents and i only found clock to check time of trains with name c40a

Has anyone heard of "electric arc" steel mills.

They prettymuch run a high-voltage current through iron ore, to make steel.

Not to be a knowall, but aren't  electric arc steel mills rarely used to create new steel? They're more oftenly employed when recycling it from scrapyards.

Which reminds me that in Spain we no longer have iron ore mines, all raw material comes from either scrapyards or Brazil pellets.



hmmm...yummy

OMG, this IS sweet! It should be made of marzipan so that we could eat it

That said, I think it could use a bit of tweaking in case you would have absolutely nothing better to do on the cold winter evenings

1. The side vents look a bit too much like the windows. Perhaps their orifices could be made even narrower or in a less protruding colout?

2. The roof gives the impression of a ledge over the front/rear, and to some extent side - I guess that's because of the way the grey meets the cream/white...

OTOH, I have noticed that the ÖBB has painted the pantos red, so perhaps they could be player colour, at least in part? Or, is it possible to make them "player colour but a bit darker"?

Did I hear somebody calling for a nitpicky person?

I really do love the idea of recreating Mariazellerbahn, but I also long for the days of PakSC to return You have made so many great vehicles you've got to give us some time to try them all out and have the most fun with them! In the meantime, I believe improving the Simutrans buildings requires more of your immediate attention - as a bridge between one and the other, I believe the Mariazeller power station can serve as a good inspiration for industrial buildings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wienerbruck_powerstation_1.jpg

(I know it's hard to bear with me - delete post at will )

I guess you deserve a delicious pellet for this one  

I did not mean "no more vehicles". I meant: "more buildings"  

Looks good.

Where did you get that cool depot?

To me, brick looks better than concrete.

I don't know, you are the artist here, do it how you want

Looks like something is missing.

 

I prefer classical style.

What do you think about it?

Croatian railways???

Sure, I have switched on   by my self.

Now, it would take some time to do that list, but I am starting to do it right now.

You mean this ? http://spz.logout.cz/nostalgie/cz/cz_cs40a.html
http://www.vlaky.net/servis/galeria.asp?lang=1&id;=938

Oh, jsut wanted a minilist, don't take that big effort

Surely is appreciated.

I was thinking on making them both player colour and some special edition original liveries.

and you the info dealer, which is 50% of the work! So then better 2 independent versions.

perhaps some passenger wagons would help towards the croatian feeling.

But hey! I said I was doing stations   finished, here they are.

Ok, I'm goinf to rescue old models, finetune them, and start and finish the Croatian Railway set.

again, thanks Mrvca.

Heh, thanks to you.

We can do passenger waggons too.

This is all for today, just to not get overwhelmed.

Well, if it's still loco time, then how about alleviating the 19th century vehicle shortage a tad with a period steamer?

May I suggest a Stirling Single?


(bigger/better photo @ link)

Length - 9150 mm (excl. tender)
Driving wheel diameter - 2464 mm (8 ft. 1 in.)
Weight - 39 t (metric, excl. tender)
Top speed - 115 km/h

Made 1870-1901, though as the design is quite old-fashioned for the period, it can serve as a placeholder for all mid-19th century engines.

The no. 1 is actually preserved and still operational, this is the one you can see in the photos:


As a sidenote - Emily from Thomas the Tank Engine is a Stirling Single...


Period coaches


BTW, if the focus is on vehicles, I have also noticed that our city cars do need some help too - the set is currently a bit of a hodgepodge, with many vehicles totally out of scale, and most modern cars rather anonymous...

Stirling Single - you mean like this? (from British train set...)

As of br008.pak there are the following pre 1900 steam locos:
Rocket
Terrier
Stirling Single
Metropolitan Class E (in my london pak)
Midland Kirtley156

Note - I've tended so far to focus more on the trains after 1920 (especially EMU/DMUs...)

OC posssible?

BTW. Do you want some special names or something?

Electrics done...

  not bad   dont give up ,for first one  is veary good

Is it just me or does Croatia's railway equipment look like a mixture of American and European equipment.

The 2061 and 2043 look like American SD units, and some of the elecrtics look like they are German.

My guesses: Germany, and France. (Russia bought RS-1s during WWII and England uses old switcher chassis to build stuff on)

I've grouped all the freight wagons I have, dropped some, and will reconstruct the rest.

Here's a preview.

My way of doing things for simutrans now is to create a big bunch of content, making backups from time to time. And when a whole set is ready, spend time only once aligning and rendering. (much more optimal use of my small amount of time).

Regards
Posted on: February 04, 2007, 12:56:48 PM

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Just as a show these three hoppers.

Perhaps I could include a panel with player colour, but I flavour these so much over the full player coloured ones.

A large cargo waggon carrying a submarine, maybe?

yep  
Posted on: February 04, 2007, 06:16:06 PM

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ooooh! And I forgot the ones from the japan set! GOt a lot of freight wagons around

You know they aren't

The three at the top are, tough.

Excuse the monotonous brown, but I'd like to model them first.

This time I would like to reduce the amount of generations. (last time there were about 8!)
Posted on: February 04, 2007, 11:56:18 PM

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and some american buses from the 50's-60's

just a preview, it'll be a while until they see the light.

is it?

Yep, heheh, that's why I posted it

Feel free to suggest Breeze646

Both hoppers and busses look WONDERFUL!  

Also just some info on the Fishbowl,

Introduction Date: Sometime in 1962 (I'd go with January 1962)
Retire date: April 1986 (that's when the last Fishbowl was produced even though production went on longer but no one knows till when cause no one ordered any after that)
Max Speed: Something near the 90s or so (that's how fast I've been on one)
Horse Power: ? (I'll find out later)

So that should be enough for your Fishie Model