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Actually vehicles that are assigned to a line are no longer member of that line if you change the vehicle's schedule individually. I do not like that behavior too much.
 
Mostly with buses you all know these caravans of vehicles lined up. The first buses get crowded of passengers while the last ones often don't transport anyone at all. The caravan passed by, the stops soon get overcrowded and passengers get angry.
 
You can solve this problem by editing the schedules of the buses. For example you change the order of f. e. two stops or even not stop at a stop where only few passengers are generated. Some simple changes like this help avoiding those lined up buses.
 
If I do so I wish to keep those vehicles within the sample that belongs to that very line in order to know how many vehicles are assigned to it.
 
All right, as soon as you edit the line by the line management everything is lost. But that is not too annoying as perhaps now other individual changes make more sens than the previous ones.
 
Technically it should not be too hard to do because in the beginning of line management this was the default behaviour.
 
By the way: Instead of dismissing a vehicle out of its sample its line name might be marked by an asterisk to show that its schedule has been changed. But you might as well add any sign or letter to the vehicle's name to indicate that its schedule has been modified.
 
What do you think about it?
 
 
Günter

If you create a dozen of sub lines it is getting difficult to remember their routes. I think it would be easier to have only few lines with those individual changes.

What bothers me most is the lining up of the busses. It makes no difference if you have two or ten busses on the same line - and that's what I want to prevent them from. I know that it works very well the way I discribed above, the behaviour of line management only makes it difficult to find the busses that belong to a certain line and just have a slightly different schedule.

As I said before once line management worked the way I propose.

The bus stays on the schedule if you just select a different station for its next stop from it's existing schedule. If it's going A-B-C-D-E-D-C-B-A and there is a line of buses going from B-C, click the last bus, schedule and click stop 'C' going the other way - ie, from D-C. The bus stays on its schedule but will go to C, turn round and come back, leaving the line of buses. This is only a short-term solution, though - after a while there will be a single line of buses with the back ones doing nothing, and for the same reasons as buses arrive together in real-life.

Having said that, I agree completely that it's irritating. I think micro-management is the only answer; and where possible, have lots of simple lines that inter-connect without overlapping rather than a small number of long and complex lines.

IMHO it comes down to network design; keep it simple - and design from the start for expansion.

And you never actually get it right. Simutrans takes you by surprise constantly - it's wonderful!

You can also pleace a choosepoint someplace along a road, about 10 tiles from the next stop. A bus can't pass that point untill the bus ahead of it has exited the station.

That is a damned good idea. 

 

It is a good trick by the way. Sometimes I have used a traffic light for the same purpose, but a choose sign works much better, of course.

Yeah, urban routes dont work to well....

We need a longer period stop light. Something that goes red once a vheical the player owns for a given number of simuloops. Call it a spacer stop =P