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Dat-Editor
« on: February 01, 2006, 08:01:20 AM »
Yesterday I started working on my new project, a program to edit dat-files.

Currently you can
- open, edit and save your files
- up to now only vehicles and goods are supported, all other information will be displayed as not identificated and can be changed.
- change the images (only one png-file is supported. I don't know if anyone uses more than one image?)

Planned:
- support for all kinds of obj
- feature to import bmp files and directly export them to png.
- test the pictures directly, without first make a pak file and then test it in simutrans
- ...?

Sadly the program is in german language, but as soon as as the first working version is released I'm going to translate it.

Screenshot: (hope this link does work)
http://www.simutrans-forum.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=960

German discussion with more screenshots:
http://www.simutrans-forum.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=1347

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 03:23:04 PM »
sounds good to me! y_clap

i tried something similar, but didn't finished, since i'm more working on soosw now ...

maybe you can post some screenshots here, because you have to be registered to see the screenshots  frown
(maybe It's a good time to register, when i finished the self-updating version of soosw [if i ever finish  y_thbbt])


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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2006, 08:25:53 AM »
Ok, here is the screenshot.

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2006, 11:30:49 AM »
Ooh, that looks like it's going to be rather handy...  clap
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2006, 11:33:51 AM »
that's looking really nice!  clap


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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2006, 12:24:27 PM »
y_worship You must be a GREAT Delphier. y_worship
I'm Japanese and not good at English so much. Could you say in plain English? redface
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2006, 05:36:53 AM »
Ok, if anyone wants to test a pre-release he can do it now. Hope you get along with the german interface  lol
One advice: please make a backup of the dat-files you want to open with this editor. since this is a pre-release I can't promise that your dat-files do work after you saved them  wink
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 07:19:45 AM »
 dance It looks very promising, really! So keep going on and... please, please.... make an english version, too!  woot
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2006, 07:38:18 AM »
Quote from: fagonella on February 03, 2006, 07:19:45 AM
dance It looks very promising, really! So keep going on and... please, please.... make an english version, too! woot

Yeah, what he said! (arrow pointing up goes here)

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2006, 02:02:39 PM »
Quote from: fagonella on February 03, 2006, 07:19:45 AM
dance It looks very promising, really! So keep going on and... please, please.... make an english version, too!  woot
Yes, I promise! But I developed and am going to develop in german language since this is my mother tongue. The first realy useful version will be translated.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 05:23:58 PM »
Quote from: tütenelch on February 03, 2006, 02:02:39 PM
Yes, I promise! But I developed and am going to develop in german language since this is my mother tongue. The first realy useful version will be translated.

Just remember that what the calls for translations really translate to (pun intended) is "We really like the idea of this and it sounds very cool and useful and wow you rock"...  mrgreen
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2006, 05:44:21 PM »
Quote from: tütenelch on February 03, 2006, 02:02:39 PM
Yes, I promise! But I developed and am going to develop in german language since this is my mother tongue. The first realy useful version will be translated.
clap clap clap That's really good to know!

Quote from: Isaac.Eiland-Hall on February 03, 2006, 05:23:58 PM
Just remember that what the calls for translations really translate to (pun intended) is "We really like the idea of this and it sounds very cool and useful and wow you rock"...  mrgreen
Isaac's totally right!  dance
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2006, 06:36:48 PM »
but can it turn open pak files
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2006, 02:13:09 AM »
Last Edit: February 06, 2006, 01:50:38 PM by Isaac.Eiland-Hall
Nothing is supposed to open pak files. Pak files are there (almost) only to stop people from getting access to the images.

End of this part of the topic. I'm not locking the topic because the topic is about the dat editor... Nobody did anything "wrong", but I removed a couple of posts after this one... we should probably not take that line of discussion again. But again, I stress, nobody did anything wrong!!! -Isaac
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2006, 07:47:51 AM »
One comment: The statisticis inside a dat file change from release to release. Thus a tool using a static table will be break anyway retrieving the statistics.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2006, 08:09:04 AM »
Last Edit: February 08, 2006, 08:35:38 AM by tütenelch
erledigt Wink

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done Wink

edit: please use english language in english forum or write a translation if you want to post in german too. thanks. - mip

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I just couldn't find a delete button, thus I just changed my message into nonsense. Sorry for writing nonsense in German Wink
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2006, 10:02:11 AM »
Dont you got a Remove Button next to Modify??
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2006, 10:11:04 AM »
Quote from: mip on February 08, 2006, 10:02:11 AM
Dont you got a Remove Button next to Modify??
I reckon only Members (or perhaps new members, too) do have remove button...
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2006, 11:06:50 AM »
Hmm that could be the reason. The other question is: why it is forbidden for a new member to delete his own post? I dont see a reason here.  nur

 wall arrghh...i'm offtopic again...like always  mrgreen
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2006, 08:27:38 AM »
A discussion in the german forum came to the conclusion a web-based version would be a better choice. Thus I cancel my project.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2006, 09:50:51 AM »
Maybe I should use this instead of using the program I used for dat files? Just need to find the words in german.

Do I know too much? Possibly

People have a short attention span, now, conditioned I suppose by 60 minute TV shows and 2 hour movies in which everything comes out okay.  The real world is not like that.  It is messy, uncertain, and sometimes bloody and ugly.  Always has been, and probably always will be.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2006, 10:21:24 AM »
Quote from: tütenelch on March 17, 2006, 08:27:38 AM
A discussion in the german forum came to the conclusion a web-based version would be a better choice. Thus I cancel my project.

 cry cry cry

I was looking forward to an english version and now you're dumping it! What a sad thing!!!

Why would we need a web-based one? There's a lot of people not having a permanent web connession  cry

I vote for keeping the project alive or, at least, to make it open source... exclaim
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2006, 10:32:04 AM »
Quote from: fagonella on March 17, 2006, 10:21:24 AM
I vote for keeping the project alive or, at least, to make it open source... exclaim
me too!


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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2006, 10:33:24 AM »
Yes - please don't stop!!

Look at the number of posts of people having trouble with makeobj. It's a slick programmer's tool but difficult for non-techies. Could the 'DatEditor' load the data items from the dat file being edited - enable only those that are present and have an option to 'Add data item'? That would function with any dat file except when new data items are introduced, which would require a new version of the editor.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2006, 10:54:37 AM »
I plan in the end to have some GUI-based dat-file editing capability incorperated in TileCutter, though it will only be for buildings. A full dat editor is really outside the scope of what TileCutter is meant to do however...

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2006, 03:26:27 PM »
I can only add myself to the long list of supporters. Do not end this, many people try hard to make their first steps in modding Simutrans and they almost always fail to use makeobj manually.

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2006, 04:38:11 PM »
Okay, anyone who wants to help and is able to code in object pascal please contact me. (send me a pm)
I hope we can find a solution to keep this project alive.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2006, 12:20:41 PM »
just to let you know:
this project is not dead biggrin
tütenelch just started at the university and will be absent for some (a long?) time.
But he sent me the sourcecode, so it will be continued.
But at the moment we do have lots of exams at school, so its postponed.
(also soosw has a higher priority for me - beta 7 is nearly finished - many new features biggrin)


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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2006, 04:03:48 PM »
Quote from: RoX-01 on April 05, 2006, 12:20:41 PM
this project is not dead biggrin

y_whew

This a good news...This project is too cool and useful to be dumped!  woot
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2006, 08:31:28 AM »
Quote from: fagonella on April 05, 2006, 04:03:48 PM
y_whew

This a good news...This project is too cool and useful to be dumped!  woot

I can work with it now as it is, It would take longer. If any non-geramn speaking people have this I could translate it. (I don't speak german, I used to LIVE in germany)

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2007, 03:13:44 AM »
It is really a long time gone... but there were some developments and if there is still some interesent in this project I will soon release a new version.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2007, 10:35:57 AM »
i am still interested, as i like to try new things that make things easier aslong as it works and is allowed.
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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2007, 08:12:33 PM »
It's a very helpful and useful tool. y_worship Keep it alive! Thumb up

Will it support multiple languages? If yes please, I will want to make a translation into Portuguese Thumb up

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Re: Dat-Editor
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2007, 09:36:13 PM »
Quote from: Francisco Gonçalves on October 02, 2007, 08:12:33 PM
Will it support multiple languages? If yes please, I will want to make a translation into Portuguese Thumb up

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